Gabriela Chelariu Interview: “Perfumery Is Not A Career Where There Is A Ladder That One Ascends, But Rather A Career Of Storytelling Through Every Creation”

Gabriela Chelariu

IMAGE: Firmenich.

You don’t have to be a perfumer geek to know there aren’t many perfumers from Romania. While her heritage makes her unusual in the industry and has given her a different perspective, ultimately that isn’t what makes Gabriela Chelariu stand out. It’s the quality and consistency of her work expressed in the creations below:

+ Jennifer Lopez JLo Glow After Dark EDT (2006)

+ Michael Kors Sparkling Blush EDP (2018)

+ All Saints Sunset Riot EDP (2018)

+ Avon Velvet EDP (2018)

+ Bath & Body Works You’re The One EDT (2020)

+ Nest Sunkissed Hibiscus EDP (2020)

+ Dolly Parton Dolly: Scent From Above EDP (2021)

+ Escada Summer Festival EDP (2021)

+ Ralph Lauren Romance Parfum (2021)

+ Calvin Klein CK Everyone EDP (2022)

+ Guess Vita Bella Rosa EDT (2022)

Avon Velvet EDP

IMAGE: Avon.

And then there all her super-popular creations for United Arab Emirates-based brand Kayali: Kayali Vanilla 28 EDP (2018), Kayali Déjà Vu White Flower 57 EDP (2020), Kayali Eden Juicy Apple 01 EDP (2021), Kayali Sweet Diamond Pink Pepper 25 EDP (2021), Kayali Utopia Vanilla Coco 21 EDP (2021), Kayali Lovefest Burning Cherry 48 EDP (2022) and Kayali The Wedding Silk Santal 36 EDP (2023).

Gabriela Chelariu - Kayali Sweet Diamond Pink Pepper 25 EDP

Perfumery wasn’t the first career choice of Gabriela Chelariu. Originally, she had her mind set on pharmacy but when she was exposed to the world of fragrance ingredients that would eventually take her to New York, where she currently works for the Swiss flavour and fragrance company Firmenich.

In this interview we chat about the allure of ingredients, working with Dolly Parton and the creation of Calvin Klein CK Everyone EDP.

Dolly Parton

IMAGE: dollyfragrance.com

When you’re not working, what kind of fragrances do you like to wear? Any particular favourites?

When I am not working, I find myself reaching for the same fragrance most of the time, a fragrance that is centred around clean orange flower, ambrette seed, Ambrox (a very diffusive and long-lasting ambery woody molecule) and musk. It has a lot of signature, clarity and creates a long-lasting aura without being overwhelming.

I like luminous woody textures built around amber woods, vetiver and cedar that have verticality, so I can smell the woods right from the top and continuously as I wear it. The fragrances I like to wear all have clean warmth, but not to be confused with fresh.

There are creations I do for myself but sometimes they find their way into projects. One is going to be launched next year but since it is not yet announced, I can’t disclose it at this time.

Gabriela Chelariu

IMAGE: Firmenich.

You originally studied to become a pharmacist and then discovered the world of aroma-chemicals. Briefly, tell us how your career evolved from there.  

In my last year of studying pharmacy, I discovered the world of aroma-molecules and this opportunity opened the door into the fascinating world of fragrances.

Soon afterwards, I visited Grasse, where I discovered the other extraordinary dimensions of perfumery, such as natural ingredients and their journey from the beautiful flowers, vibrant herbs and earthy roots into clear essences, unctuous absolutes and resins.

“I discovered the  journey of beautiful flowers, vibrant herbs and earthy roots into clear essences, unctuous absolutes and resins.” – Gabriela Chelariu

That is where I decided I wanted to become a perfumer. I started studying on my own and found a long-distance course offered by IFEAT (the International Federation of Essential Oils and Aroma Trades) in collaboration with Plymouth University. After I moved to the US in 2000, I started as a perfumer assistant at Fragrance Resources and where I began the training to become a perfumer.

It might sound simpler than it was, but that after years of working late nights in the lab studying fragrance ingredients, creating accords and finished fragrances, I look back and it was quite a lengthy process. It was not always easy but being where I am today and being able to live my dream made it all worth it.

My career evolved with every fragrance I created since then, whether they launched or not. It’s not a career where there is a ladder that one ascends, but rather a career of storytelling through every creation and I am always on a journey. I love the process.

Gabriela Chelariu - Guess Bella Vita Rosa EDT

What was your fine fragrance debut? Your thoughts on it now? 

It was Pink Pearls EDP by Lulu Guinness (2005), quite a playful, easy and optimistic fragrance that I created around pink grapefruit, orange blossom, apricot, clean musk and comforting fluffy woods.

With the spirit of a new beginning when everything is bright, hopeful and innocent, it was very much a reflection of where I was in my career and my mindset at that time. I wouldn’t change anything about it now, but I can see how it was a creation of my younger self.

Gabriela Chelariu - Lulu Guinness Pink Pearls EDP

IMAGE: Lulu Guinness.

There can’t be that many Romanian perfumers (please correct me if I’m wrong). Has that given you something different to offer?

Yes, indeed there are not many Romanian perfumers and certainly there is no tradition in Romania of fragrance creation. To add to this, I grew up far from the world of traditional fine fragrance, due to the political realities of that time in the country, but also the material conditions in which I grew up.

“I grew up in a rich world of fragrances, but they were the fragrances of the natural world and the daily life in Romania.” – Gabriela Chelariu 

That said, I grew up in a rich world of fragrances, but they were the fragrances of the natural world and the daily life in Romania. I was always connected to smells in my life in a profound way. Smells were signalling the arrival of a new season and to this day, there are smells that to me signal the arrival of spring, fall or winter. The summers smelled like tomato leaves, the end of school smelled like blooming linden, the month of May smelled like peony and February like freesia. My grandmother taught me the names of all the plants around us and their scents reinforced those names.

My experience growing up in Romania gave me a point of view in the fragrance world that is indeed a bit different because I approach perfume from a natural and experiential place, and that plays an important role in all my creations.

Escada Summer Festival EDP

IMAGE: Escada.

How do you like to work? And how do you start each perfume project?

I can’t say I have one method of working, because every project is different.

When creating new accords outside of a specific project it is the same. It can either happen methodically if I have a particular intention in mind, or serendipitously because I encountered something that moved me and I wanted to capture it in a fragrance, even if I don’t have an idea yet for where it will go.

When working on a specific fragrance project, I like to start with the story that this fragrance is trying to evoke. Who is the person who is going to wear it? What is the feeling it is going to create within that person? I like to create a universe that is going to give the inspiration for the structure, the ingredients, the accords and the textures I want to play with.

Nest Sunkissed Hibiscus EDP

IMAGE: Nest.

Do you enjoy the process of competing for briefs?

Competing for briefs is enjoyable mostly when you win them, of course. The competition we, as perfumers, are involved in is winner takes all, so there is little consolation when we lose a project. Every project is a competition with oneself as much as a competition with others, and I am fully engaged and always enthusiastic to tackle a new challenge.

“The competition we are involved in is winner takes all, so there is little consolation when we lose a project.” – Gabriela Chelariu 

The ultimate goal is to create the best possible fragrance that fits the project and when all is said and done, knowing that I did my best no matter the outcome. It’s a tough process sometimes, but the desire to create a fragrance that will touch people’s lives is stronger.

Michael Kors Sparkling Blush EDP

IMAGE: Michael Kors.

Working with Dolly Parton on her debut fragrance, Scent From Above EDP (2021), must have been a fun experience…

Dolly Parton is one of the most gracious people I have worked with. Although I’ve never met her in person, she was deeply involved in developing the fragrance and was precise in what she wanted this fragrance to be.

I refined it until she found the signature she envisioned. I remember every time she wanted another adjustment, she always apologised thinking that she is too demanding. She is very considerate and has a lot of respect for the creative process, being a creative force herself.

Gabriela Chelariu - Dolly Parton Dolly Scent From Above EDP

IMAGE: dollyfragrances.com

Calvin Klein CK Everyone EDP is a 2022 creation of yours. Did you consult your colleague Alberto Morillas (who co-created the original CK One EDT)? What else can you tell us about its creation?

Although a creation started by me, it ended up as a collaboration with Alberto Morillas and Frank Voelkl.

Of course, it was a great honour to work with Alberto, the creator of such an iconic fragrance, and his contribution was key in maintaining the DNA of the brand while evolving it for today’s youth.

The way we worked together was seamless. The last modification liked by the CK team would be passed to each of us and we would each add our individual take, and so on in the next round. This is why the final version weaves in all our ideas in a harmonious way.

Gabriela Chelariu - Calvin Klein CK Everyone EDP

Kayali The Wedding Silk Santal 36 EDP (2023) isn’t the first fragrance you’ve created for the brand. How would you describe the creative process with founder Mona Kattan?

I’ve worked with Mona Kattan from the inception of Kayali [Kayali Vanilla 28 EDP, 2018). This was an illuminating and unique experience as a perfumer because it gave me the opportunity to participate first-hand in the process of building the brand.

Mona is deeply involved in the co-creation process, and from the beginning of every brief, she has a strong sense of where she wants the creation to go. Throughout the process of co-creation, she’ll narrow down to the ideas she feels fit the best and then we start fully developing and finessing the fragrances to reach the final version. This phase of the project can sometimes take quite a long time. It is very important that the fragrance is the best it can be for the vision she has for it.

By working together from the beginning of the brand we have developed a strong relationship based on trust and a common understanding of olfactive language.

Gabriela Chelariu - Kayali Vanilla 28 EDP

What project have you just finished that you can tell us about?

I wish I could share that with you but it is client prerogative to be the first to announce a fragrance launch, so that is a trust I cannot break.

What gets you through a stressful period?

Being in nature and working with plants in the garden gets me through stressful periods. I love hiking and am always in awe of how incredible and resilient nature is. It gives me a lot of energy and optimism.

“One cannot rush nature and we must let it run its course. This is also somehow true with fragrances.” – Gabriela Chelariu

Tending to flowers and seeing them grow from seeds into majestic blooms is another way to leave the stress behind. It is also a lesson in patience – one cannot rush nature and we must let it run its course. This is also somehow true with fragrances.

Kayali fragrances are available in South Africa from Arc Store, Guess Vita Bella Rosa EDT and Calvin Klein CK Everyone EDP from Dis-Chem

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense: The Making Of A Gourmand Hit

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense

I don’t like making predictions so early in the year (it’s only May, after all). But I’m willing to put my reputation on the line for Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense as one of the most popular. The 2023 release from the United Arab Emirates-based brand is everywhere at the moment.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense

PERFUMERS

Father and son Olivier Cresp and Sébastien Cresp teamed up for this scent.

You don’t get more accomplished than Olivier Cresp, the master perfumer behind the gourmand-pioneering Mugler Angel EDP (1992).

He also created Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue EDT (2001), Versace Man Eau Fraiche EDT (2006), Penhaligon’s Juniper Sling EDT (2011), Yves Saint Laurent Black Opium EDP (2014) and Parfums de Marly Sedley EDP (2019). We can thank him (and colleague Nathalie Lorson) for maintaining the consistent quality of the Gentleman Givenchy range. In 2018, he launched his own niche brand, Akro, with his daughter Anaïs Cresp.

Mugler Angel EDP

While not as well known as his father, Sébastien Cresp is also making his mark in the world of fragrance. His creations include Bath & Body Works Toasted Praline & Pear Fine Fragrance Mist (2019), Confessions of A Rebel Morning After EDP (2021) and Nissaba Provence EDP (2023).

See my interview with the creators of Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense at the end of this review. FYI: the number 33 refers to the amount of formula modifications that went into the creation of the perfume.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Olivier & Sebastien Cresp

IMAGE: Firmenich.

INSPIRATION

“I wanted to combine my two favourite indulgences, fragrance & gelato! Ever since I can remember, ice cream has been my favourite food and always my #1 choice when asked what would be my last meal!

“In 2014, I went on a trip to Rome with my sister Alya and discovered pistachio gelato – I have been OBSESSED ever since! Just like the dreamy dessert, I wanted to create something that made me feel yummy, happy and irresistible!

“Working with Olivier Cresp (a world-renowned perfumer who is often credited as the ‘father’ of gourmand fragrances) and his son, Sébastien, was SO exciting. With every delicious spritz, you’ll feel like YOU ARE the dessert! – brand founder Mona Kattan

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Mona Kattan

IMAGE: Huda Beauty.

SO WHAT DOES KAYALI YUM PISTACHIO GELATO 33 EDP INTENSE SMELL LIKE?

It makes an impression right from the start. Pistachio can be a salty, savoury note but here it’s given the sweet gourmand treatment with an ice cream(y) accord that features the crisp citrus tones of bergamot and the additional woody nuttiness of hazelnut. The combo of cardamom and rum brings an element of spicy booziness to the treat.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense

There’s some floral-fruitiness in the mix too, but I’d be hard pushed to identify any specific notes. Nevertheless, it enhances the fresh aspect of the scent.

It’s in the drydown that Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense comes into its own. There’s a whole lot of powderiness via marshmallow, cotton candy (the synthetic ethyl maltol at work here, well known for its use in Mugler Angel EDP and Maison Francis Kurkdjian Baccarat Rouge 540) and a Turkish delight accord. I like how the latter gives a nod to brand founder Mona Kattan’s Middle Eastern heritage and reinforces the pistachio-ness of the composition (the nut is an integral part of the confection).

Most of all, though, it’s the whipped and sandalwood creaminess blended with vanilla-ish tonka beans that leaves a lasting impression.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense

As with many fragrances from the company – for example, Kayali Vanilla 28 EDP (2018), Kayali Déjà Vu White Flower 57 EDP (2020), Kayali Invite Only Amber 23 EDP (2021) – it’s unashamedly on the sweet spectrum.

Beauty entrepreneur Mona Kattan (Kayali falls under the Huda Beauty umbrella) is very in tune with what consumers want from their fragrances: boldness, distinctiveness and pleasure. And Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense delivers in all those ways. Yes, it’s being hyped, but that doesn’t stop it from being a delicious scent. Anyone looking for crowd-pleasing upliftment and escapism with addictive sugariness will appreciate this one.

Kayali fragrances are available in South Africa from Arc Store.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense

INTERVIEW WITH OLIVIER CRESP & SÉBASTIEN CRESP, THE CREATORS OF KAYALI YUM PISTACHIO GELATO 33 EDP INTENSE

 I go behind the scent scenes to find out more about the creation of the hit.

Is this the first time you’ve worked together on a fragrance?

Sébastien Cresp (SC): No, my father is my mentor and [role] model since my childhood, so I obviously always discussed his trials [perfume tests] a lot with him. Naturally, when I became a perfumer, we started to share ideas, giving input to each other.

I love working with my father because when we share our ideas, we directly confront our points of view, and above all, we understand each other immediately. This creative dialogue between us is an extremely enriching experience for me.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Olivier & Sebastien Cresp

IMAGE: Firmenich.

Olivier Cresp (OC): We are collaborating more and more together; we have already signed several fragrances together [for example: Aerin Lauder Rose de Grasse Pour Filles EDT (2021), Victoria’s Secret VS Him Deepwater EDP (2021) and O.U.i Original Unique Individuel Jardin de Grasse EDP (2021)].

It is a pleasure to exchange and discuss our ideas. Sébastien is very creative, and I enjoy working with my son. I am increasingly focused on passing on my legacy.

Aerin Lauder Rose de Grasse Pour Filles EDT

IMAGE: Aerin Lauder.

How would you describe the Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense creation experience? 

OC: Sébastien always leads me to explore new olfactive fields of possibilities, and Mona was also really challenging on her desire to create an ultimate gourmand fragrance.

She was involved in all stages of creation and challenged us on the pleasure that her fragrance should give. Mona wanted a perfume that pushed more and more gourmand as the different modifications went on. We shaped the notes together to achieve the result she wanted, an ultra-gourmand creation that makes your mouth water.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Mona Kattan

IMAGE: Huda Beauty.

Did you have different ideas on how to execute this scent?

OC: The initial idea I submitted was to create what I called “a gourmand explosion”, a fragrance inspired by a dessert, built like a pastry with layers of different sweet and tasty notes, such as cacao, rum, cotton candy and vanilla.

“Our internal code name for this project was ‘Yum’ and when Mona read it on our sample, she felt like it was the perfect name.”

SC: Then Mona talked about her love for pistachio gelato and I had this idea to turn my father’s initial formula into a sweet pistachio ice-cream by adding, of course, a pistachio accord but also more milky notes. Our internal code name for this project was “Yum” and when Mona read it on our laboratory sample, she felt like it was the perfect name to describe this fragrance.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Olivier & Sebastien Cresp

IMAGE: Firmenich.

How did you get this fragrance to be so creamy? Any particular ingredients?

SC: We started with an aroma formula to translate the pistachio as close as possible to the edible version with its mouthwatering dimension. We combined the STT (Smell the Taste) pistachio with milky notes to reinforce the creaminess, the lightness and obtain the “pistachio gelato” effect.

There is indeed a feeling of a fluffy creaminess, very enveloping, which is the result of the association of the main three unique ingredients: a cotton candy accord, a Marshmallow STT and a Chantilly STT.

STT means “Smell the Taste”, a technique drawn by the expertise of Firmenich flavorists for perfumers and their creations to express tastes into fragrances.

The Marshmallow STT is a gourmand, creamy and slightly powdery note, while the Chantilly STT offers a light and fresh note of fluffy whipped cream. To boost its daring and liquorous effect, we blended it with rum for its fruity, oak woods undertones and Bourbon vanilla accents. This charismatic addiction is an original creation with a strong gourmand and sensual signature.

Kayali Yum Pistachio Gelato 33 EDP Intense - Olivier & Sebastien Cresp

IMAGE: Firmenich.

With your pioneering gourmand background, I must ask if you enjoy eating gourmand treats as much as you enjoy smelling and creating them?

OC: Of course! I’m lucky to live in Paris where I can enjoy the finest pastry. To be entirely honest, part of this fragrance was fed by the magnificent pastry “trompe l’oeil” of the chef Cédric Grolet, which created a pistachio cake, very sophisticated and texturized, that Sébastien and I discovered during afternoon tea-time at Le Meurice [the hotel where Grolet is the executive pastry chef].