Gilles Thévenin Interview: Leading Lubin Into A New Era Of Haute Parfumerie

Gilles Thévenin

The perfume gods were clearly thinking of me a few months ago when a friend very generously gave me a bag full of Lubin samples. He’d been given them when he met the president of the legendary French perfume house, Gilles Thévenin, on a trip to Europe. I’ve been aware of Lubin for several years, but had never had the pleasure of smelling any of their fragrances. So what a joy it has been to go through the samples from their various collections, including Classique, Talismania and Evocations.

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I’ve loved many of the scents I got to try, especially the deeper oriental scents Akkad EDP and Korrigan EDP, created by Delphine Thierry and Thomas Fontaine respectively.

My favourite, though, would have to be Upper Ten EDP, created by Thomas Fontaine. It opens in lightly fresh and spicy territory with notes of pink pepper bergamot, juniper berries and specifically cardamom. The spicy profile is amplified with a big dose of cinnamon, which is beautifully contrasted with a deep leather note and a hint of juicy peach. The drydown is all about the balance between the rich woody and earthy aspects (cedar, sandalwood, patchouli) and musk. Distinctive in its own right, I can also definitely say it’s a Lubin creation, having now tried many of the house’s releases.

Gilles Thévenin Interview

I contacted Gilles Thévenin via email and he answered my questions on the same day I sent them to him. Before we get to the interview, though, I will give you a super-quick history of the house.

Pierre-François Lubin (pictured below) founded the maison in Paris in 1798. Early customers Gilles Théveninincluded Napoleon’s wife, Empress Joséphine, and the Russian and English royal courts. The 19th century saw its expansion under apprentice Felix Prot and his son, Paul. Both of them innovated the business with the construction of factories.

Lubin was particularly popular in America in the 20th century, with releases such as Nuit de Longchamp (1937) and Gin Fizz (1955) capturing the spirit of the times. It stayed in the Prot family until the end of the 1960s, but fell into decline after being sold. Gilles Thévenin revived the company in the early 21st century with Paul Prot’s sons, Laurent and Frédéric.

Tell me about your background.

I graduated from a French business school in 1981. Then I left for Asia, where  I spent two years at the trade commission of the French embassy in Jakarta. I travelled around Asia, from China to Nepal, and to remote places before they were invaded by mass tourism. Back to France, I started my career in perfumes in the mid-1980s, the golden age. I spent most of my career at Guerlain, where my last assignment was the international direction of creation. I left Guerlain when the family decided to sell to the LVMH group.

Gilles Thévenin

Why did you decide to buy Lubin?

I realised in 1996 that Lubin had been purchased two years before by Wella, the German group I was working for, together with a bunch of other brands. Among those brands was the Gucci perfume licence. I was then working at Parfums Rochas, which belonged to Wella as well. Everyone at Wella was obsessed by Gucci and the new potential the brand would offer under the direction of Tom Ford. They would entirely focus on the launch of Envy, the first Gucci fragrance of the new generation, planned in 1996.

Gilles Thévenin

In my eyes, on the contrary, Lubin, a legendary French brand, looked much more interesting. I had been impregnated by traditional luxury perfumery at Guerlain. After I tried convincing the board of the group to start Lubin again in the field of “haute parfumerie”, I realised they wouldn’t do it. I decided then to go on my own. It took another six years, after I left Rochas in 1998, before I could get hold of the brand and its archives, which were sold to me in 2004.

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“The first challenge was to avoid confusion with those fake old brands with no heritage whatsoever.” – Gilles Thévenin

What challenges have you experienced since you bought the company?

Unfortunately, many people have started fragrance businesses in recent years based on new registrations of ancient brands, pretending they are the legitimate owners of the brand’s heritage. In the case of Lubin, where the former owner’s descendants came on board with me in 2006 as investors and partners, the first challenge was to avoid confusion with those fake old brands with no heritage whatsoever.

Then the financing, of course – not the easiest part. Finally, to find the “noses” who would understand the brand’s spirit and who would be able to work on the heritage scents, making them compatible with today’s sanitary regulations, without spoiling the original creations.

How have you kept the balance between heritage and modern relevance?

It’s a question of impregnation. Lubin is a brand with a long heritage and an olfactory signature – not that much rational, more like a soul. Lubin has a life of its own, and everyone after having worked a few months with us is able to tell, when smelling a new scent in development, “This is Lubin”, or “It’s not”.

How involved are you in the creation of the fragrances?

I am not a perfume composer, in spite of my long experience. I work mainly with two perfumers, Delphine Thierry and Thomas Fontaine, whose personalities are very different. They both have a precise idea on how to interpret a Lubin creation. Both of them are right in a way. The brand has a rich, multi-faceted personality and a culture of freedom of creation. There’s no marketing briefs here – it’s all about sharing ideas, stories and scent directions.

SHARING IDEAS: Delphine Thierry is one of the perfumers who works with Gilles Thévenin.

Everyone is pulling towards his or her own beliefs on how it should be. I am supposed to make all that work together and keep a certain stylistic coherence. But I don’t consider myself a creator, or an author, nor even a creative director. I just make sure everything runs smoothly and that our perfumes live up to Lubin’s reputation.

LUBIN NOSE: Thomas Fontaine works closely with Gilles Thévenin to maintain the brand’s reputation.

Does Lubin have a distinctive olfactory style?

It’s not for me to judge. I know that I am very fond of the old Lubin scents that we were able to reproduce (for our own information, because it would not be allowed to sell them as they are). It’s my taste and I guess the new scents we make are from the same lineage.

“What defines a style in perfumery is no more than one’s personal taste.”

What defines a style in perfumery is no more than one’s personal taste: for certain ingredients, certain type of accords, and the way the scents develop on the skin. As far as Lubin is concerned, persistent but not overwhelming, most of the time with a soft lift, not a strong one, head notes which remain discrete and not too assertive, and always a very rich dry down with lots of balms and precious woods.

Gin Fizz is one of the house’s classic scents. Is it still made according to the same formula?

The original formula was adapted several times since 1955, because the international regulations change very often. When I took over, the last formula was quite far from the original one. We started again in 2008 from the 1955 original “Henri Giboulet” formula, then it took more than one year to have former lady users recognise “their” scent”. The composition is close, but not identical, of course. Thomas the perfumer had to invent some tricks…

CLASSIC FORMULA: Paul Prot and perfumer Henri Giboulet working on Gin Fizz in 1955.

Which fragrance is the house’s best seller?

We have several good sellers: Gin Fizz, of course, but also Akkad, Grisette, Black Jade and Idole are best-sellers on a worldwide basis. But every single country has its peculiarities, sometimes with unexpected leaders. Epidor is dominant in Anglo-Saxon countries, while L’Eau Neuve is a big hit in France.

Do you have a favourite Lubin fragrance?

Several, the ones that I sometimes wear, some of them even discontinued for legal reasons. But I should say my SOTD is always a perfume that is not released yet, which I enjoy very egoistically, knowing that no one else in the world has access to it. This is the real time of the discovery, before you have the opportunity to smell it on other persons.

All images supplied by Lubin, except Lubin Upper Ten. The Lubin boutique can be found at 21 rue des Canettes, Saint Germain des Prés, 75006 Paris. For more information on Lubin, read here

Frédéric Malle Une Rose Review: A Dark, Wine-Soaked Classic

Frédéric Malle Une Rose

When Frédéric Malle launched his niche fragrance company, Editions de Parfums Frédéric Malle, in 2 000, it was a novel idea for the perfumer’s name to be featured on the bottle. Since then the Paris-based niche fragrance company has built its sought-after reputation on a succession of high-quality, classic releases created by the world’s top perfumers, including Dominique Ropion, Jean-Claude Ellena and Olivia Giacobetti. Launched in 2003 and created by Edouard Fléchier, Frédéric Malle Une Rose EDP is one of these classics.

Perfumer

By modern standards, Fléchier isn’t a prolific perfumer, but the Frenchman is highly regarded for creations such as Davidoff EDT, Montana Parfum d’Homme, Christian Lacroix C’est la Vie EDP and Frédéric Malle Lys Mediterranee EDP. His place in perfume history is assured with the 80s classic Christian Dior Poison. Most recently, in 2018, he created Aramis Tobacco Reserve EDP.

SO WHAT DOES UNE ROSE SMELL LIKE?

There’s no doubt that this is a rose fragrance from the opening, but it’s no ordinary rose. It’s rich, deep and full bodied with fruity and honey undertones, courtesy of the Turkish rose absolute. The production of this extract is a costly process, hence its use only in the finest perfumes. This rose is prominent throughout the stages of the fragrance, but its character morphs as other notes come into play. At times, there’s a slight sweetness to it, but mostly it’s dramatic and uncompromising.

Frédéric Malle Une Rose

While taking in the beauty of this rose, the wine dregs add further character and depth to the mix. They bring woodiness to the scent. Geranium is often paired with rose in perfumery and it’s used to great effect in Frédéric Malle Une Rose, adding a herbal facet.

“While many rose fragrances peter out with blandness, Une Rose is increasingly intriguing as it progresses to its drydown.”

While many rose fragrances peter out with blandness, Une Rose is increasingly intriguing as it progresses to its drydown. The base notes of castoreum and vetiver work well together to complement the earthiness of the truffle accord. Like its edible counterpart, this accord is not for everyone and emphasises the dark aspect of the rose.

Remarkably authentic from start to finish, Frédéric Malle Une Rose is a standout in a category where there’s no shortage of competition. It’s expensive, but well worth every hard-earned cent. Sophisticated and luxurious, Frédéric Malle Une Rose is a top choice for rose perfume aficionados. Those who are new to rose perfumes might find it a bit overpowering. It will appeal to anyone who values craftsmanship at its best. Officially a fragrance for women, it’s perfectly unisex.

Frédéric Malle Une Rose is available at Skins Cosmetics.

Le Jardin Retrouvé Interview + 15% Discount Code

Le Jardin Retrouvé

Heritage has become an over-traded term in niche perfumery. Some houses (no names mentioned) even invent it to give themselves more credibility. Le Jardin Retrouvé is not one of those companies. Founded by Yuri Gutsatz in 1975, the Paris-based brand can justifiably claim to be one of the pioneers of niche perfumery, along with L’Artisan Parfumeur.

“The Paris-based brand can justifiably claim to be one of the pioneers of niche perfumery, along with L’Artisan Parfumeur.”

Born in 1914 in St Petersburg, Russia, Yuri eventually settled in Paris, where he met legends such as perfumer Jean Carles (Miss Dior) and Louis Amic of Roure Bertrand Fils & Justin Dupont. He was chief perfumer at the French company for three decades, but became frustrated with the increasingly commercial demands (and limitations of) perfumery. He was also was one of the original founders of the global scent archive the Osmothèque.

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CREATION MASTER: Yuri Gutsatz at work in 1935.

When Yuri founded Le Jardin Retrouvé in the 70s, he emphasised the importance of quality ingredients. It’s one of the reasons why the family business became a cult favourite over the next few decades. After his death in 2005, the maison declined and eventually ceased to operate. Realising the treasure trove they had at their disposal, Yuri’s son, Michel, and his wife, Clara, relaunched the company in 2016. Much to the joy of previous fans and a new generation of consumers. They chose perfumer Maxence Moutte to recreate fragrances from Yuri’s original formulas.

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HERITAGE GUARDIANS: Yuri’s son, Michel, and his wife, Clara.

I received a sample pack and a 15ml bottle of Tubéreuse Trianon from the company. The discovery kit contained the following seven EDPs: Eau des Délices, Citron Boboli, Sandalwood Sacré, Rose Trocadéro, Verveine d’Été, Cuir de Russie and Tubéreuse Trianon. The decision to call the company Le Jardin Retrouvé was a wise one. There’s something very natural smelling about all of these fragrances. Le Jardin Retrouvé also makes use of synthetics, which is perfectly acceptable by me. These are scents to personally savour for their quality, craftsmanship and creativity. The kind you want to yourself. No need to broadcast them for the approval of others.

Le Jardin Retrouvé

I’ve enjoyed wearing every one of them, but two stand out for me. The first is Cuir de Russie. For a superbly evocative review of it, read fellow blogger Elena’s review here.

Tubéreuse Trianon, inspired by a walk in the gardens at the Palace of Versailles, is a personal favourite of mine. I’m always keen to try fragrances containing the white floral and this EDP is one of the best I’ve smelled so far.

It opens with an unmistakable waft of tuberose, which is sourced from India. Fresh and luscious, it’s complemented by notes of jasmine and ylang-ylang, without smothering them. Hints of raspberry, coconut and coriander add another dimension to the scent. As to be expected, it’s on the sweet side, but in a sophisticated way. I’ve been wearing Tubéreuse Trianon in sweltering heat here in Johannesburg. It’s the ideal weather to reveal its complexity.

Michel and Clara answered the following questions. At the end of the interview, you will find details regarding a fabulous 15% discount.

In what ways was the founder of Le Jardin Retrouve, Yuri Gutsatz, a pioneer of niche perfumery?

Michel: For 30 years Yuri worked as a Chief Perfumer at Roure Bertrand Fils et Justin Dupont. This was the company that created the business model for perfume brands that still exists now, whereby there are “noses” in each company who create fragrances using a palette of ingredients. The perfumes that are produced are largely driven by marketing briefs, prices, availability of ingredients, etc, and not by creation.

Yuri became dissatisfied with this model. So at the age of 61 he decided to launch Le Jardin Retrouvé, which was the first perfume brand to not follow this model and therefore the first niche perfume brand. He believed that creating perfume is an art and that a perfumer has the power to create true moments of beauty. In creating Le Jardin Retrouvé he distanced himself from the mass production of perfumes and had the chance to create beautiful perfumes without restrictions.

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How did you relaunch the brand while striking a balance between heritage and contemporary tastes?

Clara: When we relaunched the brand we had a choice of about 30 perfumes. Guided by our customers and perfume experts, we chose seven perfumes to launch.

We have an active Facebook group called Le Jardin Retrouvé & YOU which is full of perfume lovers of 34 different nationalities. When we launched our limited edition fragrances (Jasmin Majorelle, Bois Tabac Virginia, Oriental Sans Soucis) we asked our Facebook group to vote for the most popular. Based on their tastes, we decided to launch three out of the four perfumes we offered. We chose to enhance an artistic background, which already existed in the perfumes, by using contemporary digital collages I created.

Why did you choose Maxence Moutte to recreate Yuris perfumes?

Michel and Clara: A long time ago we were at a wedding and Maxence was there. He is the brother of a good friend of ours. As a professional perfumer he knew about Yuri. He came up to us with lots of questions about him and also said he’d love to see Yuri’s laboratory. When we relaunched the brand we immediately asked him if he wanted to be part of the adventure and to our delight, he said yes.

RELAUNCH TEAM: Clara and Michel with Maxence Moutte.

What makes your store in Montmartre a unique experience?

Clara: It has our whole range of perfumes, candles and skincare. Above each perfume is an artwork by me reflecting the fragrance. It is also where we host our experiences where you can learn about our secret world of perfumery.

When you enter our store you see our “Wall of Emotions” where people leave lovely notes about their experience at Le Jardin Retrouvé. Then we have our timeline where you can see clearly the brand’s unique history. We are one of the only perfumeries in Paris that has a laboratory in store. In the laboratory you can see all the ingredients that Maxence uses to recreate Yuri’s perfumes and Yuri’s first formula which he created in 1934. Finally we have our Experience Room, an immersive and multi-sensorial space where you can discover our perfumes in the magical garden I created.

Will new fragrances be added to the collection?

Michel and Clara: We still have lots of Yuri’s formulas that are yet to be recreated. Our candle, Mousse Mystique, is very popular and there is demand for that to be turned into a perfume.

The Le Jardin Retrouvé store can be found at 55 rue Montmartre, Fond de Cour Rez-de Chaussée, 75002 Paris.

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*All images provided by Le Jardin Retrouvé, except Tubéreuse Trianon. 

Gucci Memoire d’une Odeur Review

Gucci Memoire d'Une Odeur

Something interesting happened in 2015 when Alessandro Michele was appointed creative director of Gucci. Apart from a new direction for the Italian luxury brand’s collections, it started to take much-needed bold risks with its fragrances, too. This was exemplified by the unusual leather fragrance Gucci Guilty Absolute EDP and the heavy florals of Gucci Bloom EDP. The recent launch of Gucci Memoire d’une Odeur EDP builds on that momentum.

It’s a unisex scent, which is pretty much standard in the niche category. But it’s still rare for a designer brand to market one of its big releases as a universal fragrance. Gucci also claims that it’s innovative in that it establishes a new olfactive family, mineral aromatic, but more about that below.

“It’s still rare for a designer brand to market one of its big releases as a universal fragrance.”

Perfumer

Alberto Morillas has created all of the recent Gucci releases. The Spaniard is one of the most prolific perfumers of our time and is well known for a slew of commercial classics. These include Bulgari Man EDT, cK One EDT, Giorgio Armani Acqua di Gio EDT, Givenchy Pi EDT, Mugler Cologne, Tommy Hilfiger Tommy EDT, Versace Pour Homme EDT and YSL M7 EDT. In 2015, he launched his own perfume company, Mizensir, in Geneva, Switzerland.

The brand stresses that Morillas created Memoire d’une Odeur in close collaboration with Michele. This kind of partnership is not always the case in the creation of a designer fragrance.

MAKING MEMORIES: Gucci creative director Alessandro Michele with Harry Styles, one of the stars of the Gucci Memoire d’Une Odeur ad campaign, at the Met Gala in May 2019. Image: Gucci.com.

SO WHAT DOES GUCCI MEMOIRE D’UNE ODEUR SMELL LIKE?

Memoire d’une Odeur is inspired by the power of memories and their intimate link with the sense of smell.

The first thing that is noticeable about this fragrance is its camomile note. Morillas used the Roman version, which has been grown in the city for a number of centuries. It’s known for its sweetness, but here it has more of a herbal and green character.

Gucci Memoire d'Une Odeur

Camomile is commonly paired with jasmine, so it’s no surprise to see the perfumer making use of this duo in the heart of the fragrance. He used an exclusive version of the floral – Indian coral jasmine – to give it a honeyed aspect. It’s not sweet or overpowering in the least. A big dose of musk brings cosy warmth. The woody drydown features notes of cedar and sandalwood. Vanilla enhances the creaminess of the latter.

Gucci Memoire d'Une Odeur

What about the claim that this pairing of camomile and jasmine sees the creation of a new olfactive family: mineral aromatic? It’s a little over the top, as it’s not the first time this combination has been used in perfumery. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that Gucci should be applauded for trying something different and that’s not trend-driven.

Gucci Memoire d'Une Odeur

There are already many negative online reviews on this fragrance. Perhaps the high-profile media campaign across all channels created the wrong kind of expectations that it would be an intense experience. Instead, Memoire d’une Odeur is a soothing and soft scent. Using the memories analogy, it’s hazy and blurred, rather than vivid and hyper real. This makes it a far more interesting proposition.

R1 195 for 40ml, R1 635 for 60ml and R2 225 for 100ml. For more information, read here.